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smith744
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 04:08 pm
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Post Number: 1107
Registered: 10-2007
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LOL
Dreadneck & Gum !!!!!
...i haven't laughed this hard & LOUD in a looooooong time |
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geo
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 04:40 pm
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 02-2007
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OR Jamaican TREE_STUMP ?
Geo
Don't get mad get even, JFK
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BrenJahLee
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 05:29 pm
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Post Number: 230
Registered: 12-2006
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Hey Smith, OK, I'll bite.
I'm not sure that I would characterize those of us who point out that posts are sometimes difficult to decipher as anti-Patois devotees. We are not anti-Patois at all. I love hearing Patois spoken by Jamaicans in Jamaica. And yes, if I don't understand what they are saying I will ask them to repeat and maybe even teach me a little. But since I am not fluent in Patois and certainly am not proficient in it's written discourse, I stand by my position that it is difficult to decipher certain posts when heavily written in pseudo-patois. And to clarify, a thrown in mi or dem is not what we're talking about.
Perhaps you haven't been seeing further posts because we have all explained in detail our opinion and since those of you who disagree choose to continue to bash those opinions, what is the point in continuing the discussion?
Finally, I will repeat it one more time - I don't think anyone should change their ways. If someone wants to post in patois, spanish, french, german, or anything else, please do so. Everyone should just do what makes them happy.
RONDEL VILLAGE HERE WE COME!!!
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smith744
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:18 pm
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Post Number: 1114
Registered: 10-2007
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BrenJahLee on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 05:29 pm, wrote:Hey Smith, OK, I'll bite.
[[ BIG smile ]]
boardie-BrenJahLee ~~~ i'm sooooo glad we're continuing with the *reasoning*
Thanks
:-)
After following this thread VERY closely (from beginning to end), and after some reflections, I hear-you LOUD & clear, and (to a point) AGREE 100% with your point-of-view, where you wrote::: """... I stand by my position that it is difficult to decipher certain posts when heavily written in pseudo-patois ..."""
I'm feeling you !!
I remember when I first started reading this board, and several other Ja-boards & sites. I was upset & frustrated 'cause i couldn't unna-stan & figure-out what in the world they were talking about. I wanted to scream ..!!!..
It took a while, but eventually i caught-on (a likkle). After a few-more vacation-trips, and after dipping deeper into the Jamaican culture, meeting & chatting with more island residents, THEN the "why" folks post-in-Patois clicked, and made sense.
As i mentioned (above) in another post, doing-so is a natural uncontrol-able progression ----- Jamaica changes folks, in weird ways, and for some (like myself) it gets in your blood, brain, mind, and typing-fingers, and you find you can't help yourself.
BrenJahLee on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 05:29 pm, wrote:I'm not sure that I would characterize those of us who point out that posts are sometimes difficult to decipher as anti-Patois devotees
forgive me, if i've offended
as with Patois, sometimes many-times i over-do or mash-up the English-language, TOO. Don't take ME (or ANYthing on these message-boards) all that seriously or personal-ly. For the most part, we-all here are nice folks --- just having fun... enjoying each other's company... help-ing, share-ing & learn-ing.
BrenJahLee on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 05:29 pm, wrote:since those of you who disagree choose to continue to bash those opinions
tru-tru, I'm in the pro-Patois camp, but I don't consider the "disagreement" of opinions as "bash-ing". It's what it IS:::>>> differing opinions [[ period ]] .... nobodys bashing anybody.
writing-Patois-wise on the board, have you ever seen & read boardie-Karin's posts, when she get's going ...??... Lawd Lawd --- that wo-mon can chat & write pure-Patois.
IF i'd not tried to learn & if i'd not-played with Patois, I would have skipped over Karin's posts, and missed a TON of GOOD information:::: priceless information that has since enhanced my Jamaica-experiences.
again,,boardie-BrenJaLee ---- i'm feelin' ya.
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smith744
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:34 pm
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Post Number: 1116
Registered: 10-2007
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smith744 on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:18 pm, wrote:Jamaica changes folks, in weird ways, and for some (like myself) it gets in your blood, brain, mind, and typing-fingers, and you find you can't help yourself.
i just though of something:::::
have you noticed, how every now & then, when some-folks do an on-site post (while they're on-island on-vacation) ...???... ...their board-voice changes.
their "voice" changes 'cause they "can't help themselves".
lol
lol
lol
they're on-island,, in the mix,,, and naturally start to do that short-short herky-jerky Patois-thing.... this voice-shift is very evident in those folks who take long trips.
sooooooo, when folks leave their first(?)-world cocoons, and slip onto the Ja-message-board, they TOO do a mental-flip, and start to chat some Patois --- some more so than others.
so it goes |
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Lola
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:38 pm
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Post Number: 785
Registered: 06-2006
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smith744 on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:18 pm, wrote:nobodys bashing anybody
Come now, I think there has been some in this thread!
smith744 on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:18 pm, wrote:have you ever seen & read boardie-Karin's posts
You know what, I like her patois posts the best because
smith744 on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:18 pm, wrote:that wo-mon can chat & write pure-Patois
THAT makes all the difference to me!
"Home is where your story begins"
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smith744
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:53 pm
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Post Number: 1117
Registered: 10-2007
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Lola on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:38 pm, wrote:THAT makes all the difference to me!
LOL
seen !!
Lola on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:38 pm, wrote:Come now, I think there has been some in this thread!
ooooooooooh_noooooooo !!
you ain't seen REAL board-bashing, mi fren
lol
lol
lol
this has NOT been a bash-thread
Whew !!
..there was a time, back-in-the-day, when pure-fur would fly, with this topic (and a few others, that frequently pop-up):::: folks would run-away .... retreat to deep-lurk-mode ..... start their own message boards .... blah blah la la and so on.
lol
lol
lol
THIS-thread has been a nice peaceful (sometimes) intelligent exchange of opinions --- *reasoning* ---- two sides of the coin,,, with some funny & groove-y edges.
it's alll good !!
the "coin" is still good-to-go --- the family is intact. |
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BrenJahLee
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 07:05 pm
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Post Number: 231
Registered: 12-2006
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Smith, don't worry, I'm not offended in the least. I don't think you could offend me if you tried. There are too many people in this world who cry out that they are offended by the slightest things and I just roll my eyes and think "oh please, get over yourself." Maybe I listen to AM talk radio too much!
I will also admit that a big part of my personal problem is that having a degree in journalism and doing a lot of writing for my job, I am constantly editing content and grammar of virtually everything I read, as I read it. It's a habit that I just don't think can ever be broken because if I stop, my work will become sloppy, then I'll get fired, and then I won't be able to afford to go back to Jamaica again. So trying to read the posts in heavy pseudo-patois almost quite literally hurts my brain. And that in a nutshell is why I just skip over those posts.
RONDEL VILLAGE HERE WE COME!!!
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Gail
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 07:25 pm
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Post Number: 1046
Registered: 05-2007
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Jim- Donna on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 02:56 pm, wrote:O.K., WHAT IS THIS!!!!!
The previously mentioned Pooch pole, will now forever be stuck in my head as the Pum Pum Pole. See what happens here? Sheesh.
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dreadneck
Moderator posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 07:38 pm
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Post Number: 1554
Registered: 08-2006
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Gail on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 07:25 pm, wrote:The previously mentioned Pooch pole, will now forever be stuck in my head as the Pum Pum Pole. See what happens here? Sheesh.
http://DREADNECK.COM
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Lola
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 08:45 pm
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Post Number: 786
Registered: 06-2006
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smith744 on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 06:53 pm, wrote:you ain't seen REAL board-bashing
fuggedhaboudit
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"Home is where your story begins"
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smith744
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 09:08 pm
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Post Number: 1120
Registered: 10-2007
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BrenJahLee on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 07:05 pm, wrote: having a degree in journalism and doing a lot of writing for my job
ooooooooooooooh my Gawd !!!!
NOW I unna-stand understand
Girrrrlllll ---- you do be suffering with our's Patois (and Ebonic) foolishness, FI SURE
:-)
BrenJahLee on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 07:05 pm, wrote:then I'll get fired
no no Nooooooooooooooooo
we can't have that !!
BrenJahLee on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 07:05 pm, wrote:then I won't be able to afford to go back to Jamaica again
:-(
we CAN'T have that happen, either/neither/ny-ther !!
what to do
what to do
what to do ...???..
* sigh *
again::>> I'm sooooooooooo glad you hung-in der and continued this *reasoning* thing-y.
I'm feeling a LOT of pain ..... trembling for you.
what to do
what to do
what to do ...???..
Darn !!
:-(
this is trouble-ing.
mi stuck --- i can't figure-out a "compromise"
..gotta be a way to keep you in-the-loop
....and the rest of us's have our-fun too.
what to do
what to do
what to do ...???..
i need a drink |
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Abbynormal
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 09:19 pm
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 07-2006
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BOAL!
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smith744
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 09:24 pm
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Post Number: 1121
Registered: 10-2007
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Abbynormal on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 09:19 pm, wrote:BOAL!
:-(
don't laugh !!
this a serious-thing
"..Hi, Miss Abbey .... looooong-time.."
:-)
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Abbynormal
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 09:46 pm
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 07-2006
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Hi, Mr. Smith. ...I lurk...
If ya NEED a drink.... it must be SERIOUS biddness.
now why ya haf fi tell him ya lurk?
maybe he'll behave if he knows somebody watchin' him.
Smith? him, mis-behave and stir a pot? neva!
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all smiles
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:28 pm
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Post Number: 167
Registered: 08-2007
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Just curious, did BILL sign off this one? My eyes are too tired to read 'em all.
Lord, keep Your arm around my shoulder and Your hand over my mouth.
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juju
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:28 pm
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Post Number: 2897
Registered: 07-2006
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smith744 on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 09:08 pm, wrote:
i will fix u one-quick,quick.
hear wha happen now:
BrenJahLee on: Friday, December 07, 2007 - 07:05 pm, wrote:my personal problem
k. so. with original poster and others it is personal. fine, well, good.thank you. this is all we need to know.
like i say-if this is english class or school-i am finish.
i have learned and will continue to learn form each and every person who posts here.i am grateful for all of you.
jus nah like downgrading others.
i have dreams to remember and dreams to live!
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Bill
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:39 pm
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 10-2007
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| No, I've been following with interest. My original question was answered long ago: Jamaicans aren't offended by non-Jamaicans attempting to write patois, and are more likely to be amused by it. |
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smith744
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 10:58 pm
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Post Number: 1122
Registered: 10-2007
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.....and (below) your other question......
Bill on: ???, December ???, 2007 - ??:?? pm, wrote: When Jamaicans write do they attempt to use the Queen's English?
'they' write in both... Patois AND English (( the Queen's and other types of English ))
...AND their writing is good-good, thank you very much
:-)
"..this thread finished...??.." .... "..maybe.." ... "..the "mi-done" image..??.." ... "..OK.."
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Karly
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 11:42 pm
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Post Number: 833
Registered: 07-2006
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Family isn't about whose blood you have. It's about who you care about.
Trey Parker and Matt Stone, South Park
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juju
Member posted on Friday, December 07, 2007 - 11:59 pm
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Post Number: 2899
Registered: 07-2006
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was gonnna let sleeping dogs lye, lie. lay-whatever....sleep.
then you, karly!
i watched that whole thing.
what a cute boy he was. remember when i was just a youth and listen to his music all the time.
thanks for that.
the end....
that video kinda made me sad.but i loved it!
i have dreams to remember and dreams to live!
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yetta
Member posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 12:22 am
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Post Number: 308
Registered: 12-2006
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I love to read all the posts no matter what! In patois or the queen's english. I find it rather invigorating to try to figure out wha agwan, when a post is in patois. When I am in Jamaica, I always try to learn more and more patois out of respect to the country. I am not ever trying to be something I am not, but trying to respect an island that I love. I have always found in my visits, that when I attempt to speak patois, I always get a smile. Whether it is a smile, laughing at my pathetic attempt or a smile, assuming that I am trying to learn, I accept it with grace. So, with that, I shall depart...soon come and with much respect..
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smith744
Member posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 12:27 am
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Post Number: 1126
Registered: 10-2007
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smith744
Member posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 12:42 am
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Post Number: 1127
Registered: 10-2007
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i've been in LOVE with Gladys looooooooong-time
...since high school
sooooooo....
one more Gladys
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smith744
Member posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 01:25 am
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Post Number: 1128
Registered: 10-2007
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getting back on-topic (i.e. Patois),,, some oldies, but ALWAYs goodies,,,, often posted, but pure-classic........
Patois lessons and samples.....
...AND because it's the holiday season,,, another likkle Ja-video,,,with a nice likkle Patois mix.
Interesting site dealing wit "how to WRITE" Patois::>>> http://www.snitchseeker.com/caribbean-patois/caribbean-lesson-1-a-35308/ |
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BrenJahLee
Member posted on Saturday, December 08, 2007 - 11:46 am
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Post Number: 233
Registered: 12-2006
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Smith, you do crack me up. I had to go get a kleenex I was laughing so hard I was crying.
Juju, while I appreciate you justifying my opinion because of the personal reasons I explained, you forgot to point out that your opinion on this issue is also drawn from personal reasons. Everybody has their own personal reasons behind their opinion on this and every issue. It's what makes us human. We draw on who we are, our experiences and our education, to form our personal opinions on everything from what we choose to eat to how we write or speak. If we were all the same, life would be awfully boring.
RONDEL VILLAGE HERE WE COME!!!
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