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smith744
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 06:53 am
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Post Number: 402 Registered: 10-2007
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Rambo on: Monday, October 29, 2007 - 05:22 am, wrote:Do you think if Benie Man or Luciano were to "non-declare" a item? and get caught, any thing bad would happen????GET REAL
ummmmmmmmmmm.... i'm NOT so sure Moses has it going-on like that.

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Island Girl1
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 08:33 am
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Post Number: 72 Registered: 01-2007
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Bill, (no not you Smith, LOL) and all others who thinks smoking is "harmless"- eating something natural and lighting something afire and inhaling the high-temperature smoke from it are too different things. Please enlighten me what is so "natural" about ANY type of smoking. I would be interested to hear. IRIE! *IG IRIE! #IG
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Keri
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 11:26 am
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Post Number: 118 Registered: 12-2006
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The plant itself is natural...I believe that's what was meant. As opposed to meth and crap like that, which is much more harmful. "Let the beauty we love be what we do"~Rumi
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Br Mon
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 12:17 pm
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Post Number: 207 Registered: 11-2006
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Wow!!!! I better change my ways...Why only this board preached to. The one on the west end is an endless party and no body preaching to them....Just wondering...Is it TOO Irie here or another reason since the party topics are similar except the mindless political stuff.... Be a Traveler
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smith744
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 01:13 pm
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Post Number: 412 Registered: 10-2007
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Keri on: Monday, October 29, 2007 - 10:26 am, wrote:The plant itself is natural
good point ..."poppies natural, too" (as a buddy told the judge) |
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dave
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 03:07 pm
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Post Number: 782 Registered: 06-2006
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smith744 on: Monday, October 29, 2007 - 12:13 pm, wrote:..."poppies natural, too"
da 'by-products' cause da problems plant itself is not illegal in USA just a pretty flower to admire..... stupid law kool plant |
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smith744
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 04:07 pm
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Post Number: 422 Registered: 10-2007
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smith744 on: Monday, October 29, 2007 - 05:53 am, wrote:i'm NOT so sure Moses has it going-on like that.
*Hot off the Press" ... Bennie recieved bail in court today ... waay over Ja$1,000,000 per power 106 3pm (ja-time) news |
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Rasta Stan
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 04:27 pm
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Post Number: 89 Registered: 07-2006
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Papi, I disagree with your view on custom duties on little offerings of school supplies and such. Get real, if you think any money collected for these might actually get to the people......what a joke. I've been coming to JA since the early 70's and all I've seen at customs is greed and corruption. They don't abide by the law, why should I ? I've declared lots and watched them help themselves to the goodies and laugh about it too. Your view on Ganja is also a joke , parts of Negril was built on it, take off the rose colored glasses. Of course this is MY opinion and you have yours, lets say we disagree....allot. |
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Bill-
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 05:17 pm
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Post Number: 16 Registered: 01-2007
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Would much rather burn my lungs then pickle my liver Watched my grandmother drink herself to death Nothing mattered but that next bottle of Booze. Oh but no worries the liquor store was right up the road. Can not say I have seen that from ganja it is not a physically addictive drug like opium, coke, heroin, rum, beer. They say it is only mental, imagine that. We have far to many people all screwed up on R/X and they say here, we will synthetically change your brain??? Think toooo many people are screwed up by theses idiots! They told me my son had A.D.D. put him on amphetimine, which was called adarol well did some research and ya know what I found out schools get more state aid from all these poor children whos parents follow the system diagnosis. Even my own family doctor HIGHLY recomended not to give it to him. Our laws have no problem with a bar at damn near every corner but no one will drive drunk???? RIGHT??? God bless you drink all ya want, pop some a dem legal mind altering pills the doctor gives ya. dem synthetic ones they make in the labs. The good lord gave us natural ones. Hey anyway to each there own, just saw way to much preachin. Everyone goes to Jamaica for there own reasons. If you bring somthin down for childrens learning there is no reason there should be TAX. Dem ganja farmers gonna love to hear tourists are tellin people to call 811 on em think dem are allmighty cuz dem in da legal division. Hope one dem farmers dont see you pon de hillside!KINGFISHER |
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Nikki
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 05:32 pm
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Post Number: 371 Registered: 08-2007
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| Totally agree with you RastaStan...Customs is a great big joke! |
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papi
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 06:21 pm
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Post Number: 234 Registered: 07-2006
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Hold up........ppl are going waaay off track from the intention of my original post.......that's OK, but if you read my post, I was specifically speaking about the "laws" in response to Keith's Post about the IMAGE of this tourist board, and the closed thread. It is not my "view" that there should be import duty on stuff tourists bring to give away....it's the law, a very similar, if not identical law exists in our country and applies to all visitors. It is not my "view" that ganja should be illegal.........but it is, same as it is here. when I wrote this 'I Wasnt trying to bait you Keith, just making observations. I do personally choose to go to the declare line, write down everything I bring and often they dont even charge me because theyre really just looking for electronics, and lots of stuff for resale. Works great for me, because its always a shorter line, and if I do have to pay a little duty, I dont feel like Im getting over on them and maybe some of it will trickle down to help the ppl who need it. I do however think its conflicting to say the board is concerned about the image presented to newcomers to the Board and potential new tourists for Negril, and have ILLEGAL content allowed.....the news reports are all about the serious Drug control initiative, Jamaicans are being imprisoned or fined huge amounts of $ for minor ganja infractions, theres roadblocks everywhere, and yet here we sit like it's no problem mon" I was specifically responding to the board's decision to close certain discussions and allow others...... Nikki, you may think customs is a great big joke, but it's the law..... Rasta Stan, I'm glad you think we're all entitled to our opinions, but it would be cool if you could voice your own without telling someone else that their post is a "joke".........and especially since you totally missed the point of the post to begin with. |
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Rasta Stan
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 06:49 pm
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Post Number: 92 Registered: 07-2006
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I missed nothing Papi Your post was clear to me..Lol You like to raise issues ...and bait...I know that. Are you going to read your own post again...Lol |
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kat
Member posted on Monday, October 29, 2007 - 07:35 pm
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Post Number: 680 Registered: 07-2006
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chitown on: Friday, October 26, 2007 - 06:28 pm, wrote:when we've stayed in the upper tower we were told that was our shower.
They have added a shower to the upper tower room...the lower shower you speak of now goes with the Penthouse. I love that shower - looks right out to the sea!! |
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Island Girl1
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:52 am
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Post Number: 73 Registered: 01-2007
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WOW this board is an ongoing study in thought-process/psychology for sure, LOL. I have yet to hear an intelligent, fact-based resposne that is DIRECTLY related to my post, much less Papi's- who in case "some of you" forgot with your own guilt-ridden agendas is the one who started this thread? "The Law" seems to be a non-entity here, never mind the consequences. Pleasure-seeking and immediate gratification seems to be the order of the day. "Where are the clowns? Send in the clowns..." Never mind, Smith, they're too far gone already, LOL. Soooo.... maybe I should go back to mostly-lurking? OR maybe not...However, as they say, "I can only give you the information, NOT the intelligence to understand it." IRIE! (too much, so some say- but maybe they're just stoned, LOL) *IG IRIE! #IG
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smith744
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 01:07 am
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Post Number: 427 Registered: 10-2007
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Island Girl1 on: Monday, October 29, 2007 - 11:52 pm, wrote:"Where are the clowns? Send in the clowns..."
Clown #1, present & accounted for btw..that's one of my fav songs wish there was a video of Cleo Laine's version |
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Island Girl1
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 01:22 am
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Post Number: 74 Registered: 01-2007
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THANKS Smith, I am going to bed tonite with a smile on my face and a light heart- perfect end to a relaxing yoga session. {{{{YAWN, mi tired... aren't you? Try a downward dog asana followed by a child pose... preferably while humming "Bring in the Clowns"...namaste! }}}} IRIE!*IG IRIE! #IG
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Nikki
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:14 pm
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Post Number: 374 Registered: 08-2007
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| papi...I don't think it's a big joke,I know it is...law or not...people jaywalk all day long and that's against the law as well...A very petty law that's a waste of time...I will continue to enter the "nothing to declare" line no matter how many gifts I'm bringing...I have nothing to share with Customs ,they are for my Loved ones! |
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gum
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:43 pm
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Post Number: 462 Registered: 06-2006
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Some would say that in the end, these are the laws that really count: 1) I am the Lord thy god, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. 2) Thou shalt have no other gods before Me. 3) Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain. 4) Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy. 5) Honor thy father and thy mother. 6) Thou shalt not murder. 7) Thou shalt not commit adultery. 8) Thou shalt not steal. 9) Thou shalt not bear false witness against they neighbor. 10) Thou shalt not covet anything that belongs to thy neighbor. I believe it's time to take out the wooden stake and kill the beast that is this tread has become. |
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Br Mon
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 01:48 pm
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Post Number: 209 Registered: 11-2006
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Alexandra
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 01:48 pm
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Post Number: 302 Registered: 08-2006
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I have a question regarding Customs... I always thought that you only had to declare something that you were intending to sell??????????????? If you aren't intending on selling it then you don't have to declare it? Is that wrong? This thread has an abundance of replies... but no actual answers...  "She knows where her ticket takes her she will find a place in the sun..." - Tracy Chapman
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Loving Jah
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 01:52 pm
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Post Number: 774 Registered: 07-2006
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Papi... Go live down in Jamaica with all its oppressive ways at times... Its a hard life to live. Jesus himself would go to the no declare line knowing what people know about suffferation. Lord have mercy..find somethin better than this!!!! |
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Br Mon
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 01:57 pm
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Post Number: 210 Registered: 11-2006
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This thread was not intended to answer any questions just a person giving her opinion on the board allowing people to post about breaking laws and stuff..nothing more nothing less..If it has value and will be left in Jamaica then it is to be declared. I always bring lots of pencils and paper tablets for our friends children. We bring boots and leather gloves for the workers as well. The poster suggest that this should be declared and duties paid and this will help the children by jamaica getting more tax money. It will filter down...I have issues with the Jamaican filters my self... Be a Traveler
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Carrie Bean
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 02:05 pm
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Post Number: 300 Registered: 08-2006
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I think the filters are clogged up. Beautiful photos Br Mon. |
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Lola
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 07:01 pm
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Post Number: 621 Registered: 06-2006
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Loving Jah on: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:52 pm, wrote:Jesus himself would go to the no declare line
LOLOLOL good one. |
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Rambo
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 08:46 pm
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Post Number: 2551 Registered: 06-2006
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".....I declare that I'm happy to be in Jamaica" I always smile and say that....response?? "WELCOME BACK"...... The worst feeling isn't being lonely, Its being forgotten by someone you never could forget.
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Island Girl1
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 09:38 pm
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Post Number: 76 Registered: 01-2007
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An aside to BR Mon: You may consider this "preaching" and will probably want to skip it altogether.Regardless, I still like your pics (awesome sunset above!) and comments over the years...IRIE! *IG To "some of you" posting (and maybe more importantly, NOT posting) in this thread, RE: paying custom duties- you're not fooling me or anyone else except maybe yourselves, you just plain darn cheap, LOL. Extra Points: The lines are SHORTER when you declare! I liken it to a meal at a good restaurant: if you can't afford the price of the meal AND the tip, maybe you can't afford to eat out (or bring the goodies, in this case). Better yet, if you really want/need to do good/feel good about yourself, purchase your "donations" in Jamaica. The price is really not all that different, especially if you figure in what you would pay to customs, PLUS you are contributing DIRECTLY to the Jamaican economy- which is, strangely, another non-entity here, along with the law as I said before. If that doesn't convince you, remember it is a BONUS to have the extra space in your luggage,(more room for goodies to BRING BACK- further contributing to the local economy) and no need to worry when you put it on the scale. Personally, we have found our own solution- CASH- one size fits all! If you use a debit card, it hardly weighs anything- in your luggage or on your conscience. AND what are going to buy with that 5 bucks you saved on duty anyway? Another "Tommy" knock-off in a size 2Toddler? Sure, times are tough in JA, but it is the tourist who can afford the goodies AND therefore the duty, who are disrespectful by trying, because they are cheap, to duck their lawful duty. (BTW, do you know exactly where your US customs duty goes to? I didn't think so...OR do you cheat on that too? Do you think that customs in the US is some kind of God-bonded sacred duty free from corruption? Do you think the US customs/duty goes directly "to the people?" I didn't think so...(deleted: I got political here, but that is for another (non-Jamaica) board, Thank God I still have the wisdom to tell the difference! AND I am certain you are grateful too, LOL) As for the defense to hard times as a reason to sell drugs, or even just to harrass people, that is just plain BS, and yes I DID consider the source on that particular comment, LOL. Watch who you hang with!! It is not just the adult tourist who are affected by this, they will sell dope (any kind) to anyone and have NO CONSCIENCE even if that is a 8-year-old Jamaican kid; there is simply no defense for those low-lifes, no matter how much you fist-bump-no-problem-I -can -get- you -anything- you -want- for-DE- BES- PRICE-MON-, DI-BES-PRICE-MON-"RESPECT"-you-are-my-"fren"-til-the-western-union-don't-come-no -mo. I just don't "get" a lot of you, blowing off Papi's post.The original post was never meant to be confrontational at all that I could see. It was a comment on the lack of RESPECT that so many visitors, witnessed by this board, the posters and the content ALLOWED herein,for the laws and customs of Jamaica. That alone SHOULD be enough to make you all at least stop and think, in spite of the information that is allowed here. If you don't, then you are the ones who aren't "getting it". Keith, I respect you and know that your job is not easy. I always recognized that with past administration, and constantly defended that. You can say "go elsewhere", but hey I don't have time this board has always been THE BEST and I want to see it stay that way instead of becoming a wastrel refuge...and it would be infinitely sad to see Negril become the same... plus, this board has become something of a habit after ten years AND I DON'T WANT TO GO AWAY. I have already "gotten a life", (I am retired at a delicious young age, and traveling with a foxy senior citizen and a laptop- beware!) BUT that does NOT change my love for Jamaica NOR the responsibility I feel for it. Hopefully, NONE of you have forgotten your role either. I AM, *IG IRIE! #IG
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Island Girl1
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 09:52 pm
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Post Number: 77 Registered: 01-2007
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BEFORE anyone attacks, me, I must add a caveat: that is, medical machines and supplies- however, most of these have applied in advance-that is key in such situations- and are exempted or at least allowed in on a different duty schedule. GO MARCIA and FOJ!! Hopefully, you will one day make it over to the other side of the country... IRIE! *IG IRIE! #IG
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JamaicaMAX.com
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 10:58 pm
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Post Number: 36 Registered: 06-2007
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Island Girl1 on: Monday, October 29, 2007 - 07:33 am, wrote:
we're supposed to eat more than we smoke. Smoking is unnatural and the high is different but smoking is quicker and hits you faster than eating it. Smoking of course changes the chemical composition of THC by burning it. The lungs can intake THC from the smoke vapors and it gets into the blood stream faster than digestion causing a quicker and more cerebral high. Eating herb is a slower process and it does not offer the same head high. Eating herb most often puts people to sleep and causes more of an energy drain on some folks. Eating herb is time consuming and the preparation is a pain. When most people talk about herb as natural they most often mean as a medication/mentalcation when compared to alternatives like prescription drugs or alcohol. Jesus was a pothead. Who else claims they are the son of God but stoned people? The bible was written by men and I have not met one that I trust in my first 37 years on earth. it's not where you are or where you been but where you go that matters - http://www.jamaicamax.com
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Kolya
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:12 pm
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Post Number: 142 Registered: 07-2006
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reading this thread for a week . . I don't think necessarily disagree with the spirit of "do the right thing" but the original post seems to be so preachy and assumes that we're a bunch of miscreants . . followed by the "bring it on" challenge to Keith (who I've never met). If this was a friend of mine espousing at the pub on a friday night . . I'd get up and walk away . . . don't need to be talked to in that tone. |
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smith744
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:38 pm
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Post Number: 452 Registered: 10-2007
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Island Girl1 on: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 08:38 pm, wrote: becoming a wastrel refuge
"wastrel" === you made me pull-out my dictionary, that time, mi-fren :-) anyhoo... GREAT post, lady clap clap clap love it !! when i get some time, i've GOT TO join this thread ~~~ keep it going you-all ... don't stop.
Island Girl1 on: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 08:52 pm, wrote:GO MARCIA and FOJ!!
tru DAT !! btw ~~~ in case you didn't know,,, FOJ has to jump thru some crazy-hoops TOO, to get that stuff in. ...Jamaica not easy.
Island Girl1 on: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 08:38 pm, wrote:I DID consider the source on that particular comment, LOL
:-( hey hey heeeeeeeey dat's my sweetie-pie ...left her alone
 <<<< gotta defend my SweetiePie, everytime
 on: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:52 pm, wrote:Papi... Go live down in Jamaica with all its oppressive ways at times...
Sugar-pie-honey-bunch ,,, in case you didn't know, boardie-papi HAS spent a whole heap of *quality* time in Jamaica --- the fact of the matter is::>> she almost a yardie.
gum on: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:43 am, wrote:8) Thou shalt not steal.
#8 is a good-one for this thread, na tru don't wanna "steal" from the Jamaican government, customs, etc. boardie-DaRev ~~~ didn't Jesus say something-something kinda-sorta like::>> "..render unto Ceasar those things he 'spose to be getting.." solutions (??)::: in another thread, i offered a pledge, but nobody wanted to take the pledge * sigh * 'Mo-solutions::::- be legal, declare & pay the customs duties.
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- Anybody going down, now thru April, promise not to take any declarable stuff
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- everybody encourage your Ja-*friends* to register & vote (in the December election),, for those candidates who will work to change or modify the present customs laws. ...tell 'em::>> we need them to help us help them (with our goodies) ... otherwise, when begged to bring this or that, tell 'em "..I can't dew-wheat.."
p.s.. all USofA citizens,,, don't you-all forget to register & vote, TOO ..... there're some important elections coming-up in January. ... are you registered ..??.. |
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smith744
Member posted on Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 11:41 pm
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Post Number: 453 Registered: 10-2007
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JamaicaMAX.com on: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 09:58 pm, wrote:Jesus was a pothead. Who else claims they are the son of God but stoned people? The bible was written by men and I have not met one that I trust in my first 37 years on earth.
wow!! you should start a new-thread with that one |
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nurse Marcia
Member posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 08:16 am
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Post Number: 1011 Registered: 06-2006
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Island Girl1 on: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 08:52 pm, wrote:Hopefully, you will one day make it over to the other side of the country... IRIE! *IG
Do you mean the US or Jamaica? I'm not understanding, but heck, it's early and my brain is still waking up. ~~Together, we will make a difference~~ http://www.friendsofjamaicausa.org
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Nikki
Member posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 09:41 am
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Post Number: 379 Registered: 08-2007
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Alexandra on: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 - 12:48 pm, wrote:
always thought that you only had to declare something that you were intending to sell? I too always thought that Alexandra,but I guess the people at customs never got that memo...Once a friend and I were traveling and they tried to make her pay for her own things because she hadn't taken price tags off...Kept telling her she's bringing them for people..My cousin was bring his daughter a dress for her graduation and they wanted to charge him more than he paid for the dress...Plain Ole Crooks! |
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Br Mon
Member posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 09:59 am
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Post Number: 211 Registered: 11-2006
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Island Girl....I am glad you enjoyed my pictures. I fully understood Papi's post and yours as well...don't TOTALLY agree with either one of you but do agree with more than you would think. My point is the content of this site is really no different than two others I read except the players are different. This site does not have the mindless political dribble that some do but the "No declare line", the ganja post/pictures and other party "tips" are basicly the same. My point was why here and not everywhere....AS for Keith and the deletions I think he is doing just fine. It is better than it used to be where you got deleted because the moderator didn't like you or didn't agree with you...Preaching was a bad use of words. I appreciate reading Papi's post as well as yours. I wish you both would post more here as this I personally enjoy your view even if some I do not agree with. The part I felt was preaching was challenging me to enjoy a beach party with all suffering and poverty all around. Well I grew in Mississippi and I will tell you that jamaica does not have a monopoly on poverty but we still found ways to laugh and enjoy life. By the way, I still think you have the best board name. Now for some real debate....Cliffs or Beach...Small hotel or AI....now thats stuff with substance... BR Mon 

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Island Girl1
Member posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 10:58 am
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Post Number: 81 Registered: 01-2007
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Hi Nurse Marcia, the other side of the country I am referring to is the east/northeast of Jamaica. Sorry I was not clear in the post. You probably have enough on your plate already though, eh? For that matter, I should check your website, have not been there for a while... BR Mon, Glad I don't tick you off too much, LOL. THe pics of the pumpkins are great. I would be really impressed if you carved them- man I am creative but not artistic in any way. Today is one of my favorite holidays, just love the spooky stuff. HAPPY HALLOWEEN! IRIE! #IG
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rhonda
Member posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:09 am
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Post Number: 118 Registered: 07-2006
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"The part I felt was preaching was challenging me to enjoy a beach party with all suffering and poverty all around. Well I grew in Mississippi and I will tell you that jamaica does not have a monopoly on poverty but we still found ways to laugh and enjoy life." there used to be a board member here who had a quote that went something like this "if I have to explain you just won't ever understand" that is pretty much what I feel about your above statement BR Mon so it goes :} |
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nurse Marcia
Member posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:37 am
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Post Number: 1012 Registered: 06-2006
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Island Girl1 on: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 09:58 am, wrote:For that matter, I should check your website, have not been there for a while...
I'm glad you mentioned that. I am working on the newsletter right now and it is FULL of new info. There will also be new pages at the website. Recent FOJ projects - Donation to buy a container for a Homeless shelter in Port Antonio Donation for a container for a Homework/Young Men's Center in Spanish Town. This is a great project that will get its own page at the website. 2 years ago - donation to a school in Maryland - the foothills of the Blue Mountains above Kingston. I know it seems like many of our efforts benefit the Western part of the island, but in my travels, I see the greatest needs in the Western part. (I go to Annotto Bay and Mandeville as well as Kingston, and visited family in Runaway Bay for a few days) When teaching classes, I talk to people from every parish and hear what the hospitals and schools are like in their parishes. I don't consider myself an expert, by any means, but I am getting to know the different areas of the island. I appreciate you bringing this up as I see I need to talk about all of our projects a little more. Stay tuned for the newsletter and website updates in the next week or so. ~~Together, we will make a difference~~ http://www.friendsofjamaicausa.org
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Br Mon
Member posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:40 am
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Post Number: 216 Registered: 11-2006
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Well Island Girl.......nothing I read here ticks me off at all. My goal as always is to be a very good tourist. I get talked with, to and at.... I have the same regard for the laws in Jamaica as I do the laws in the States. I break one of them every evening... As for the pumpkins.....I bought a kit at the dreaded Wal-Mart.....you trace out the picture and they have some small tools to carve with... keep on postin!!!! BR
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Rickdad
Member posted on Wednesday, October 31, 2007 - 11:46 am
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Post Number: 29 Registered: 09-2006
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| Kudo's to Keith, you do an awesome job. Personally I would delete alot more than you. I think you have always given us alot of reins. Thank-you... |
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